Nearfield monitor for dialogue

[Erik Guldager]

I'm searching for a good NFM for dialogue editing. I've used Genelecs for a long time and it works ok'ish, but I'd prefer a speaker that is more similar to the large JBL screen speakers (we use 4675C) in the mix studio.
Any suggestions?

[Angelo D´Angelico]

I `ve got best results with the Tannoy NFM Horn system ,
or with Klein + Hummel as a not horn system,
I also have JBL sceen.
and I hate the genelecs....

[dr.sound]

Eric,
I also am using the JBL Screen Arrays model 3632T's. Why don't you try a pair of JBL LSR28's. I think they will work well for you. They are self powered and the run about $850 ea.

[Erik Guldager]

Thanks Marti and Angelo.

I'm getting the JBL LSR to try and I'm going to have the Tannoy and Event too, and have a "shootout".

Any other suggestions?

Erik Guldager
Europa Post Production, Sweden
http://www.europapostproduction.se

[jayrose]

I checked the LSR25s and was worried by the crossover right in the middle of the consonant fundamental; when I listened to them they seemed to place male and female differently.

For the past three years I've been using JBL 4412As in the mid-nearfiled, about 4'. They translate beautifully when I hear my stuff in theaters. Prior to that I used 4410As, which are smaller and can be closer.

[Erik Guldager]

Well just an update on my old topic.

I decided after trying nd comparing quite a number of speakers to go with the LSR 28's, they translate very well to the big screen monitors.
These days I rearely get surprised about how the dialogue sounds in the mix.

Erik Guldager
Europa Post Production, Sweden

[jgarrett]

I have the HHB Circle 5 powered speakers and like them OK. But my next speakers are going to be SLS loudspeakers. With a good amp these things are incredible http://www.slsloudspeakers.com I've been in some Bob Alac designed studios, mastering suites and listening rooms that use SLS and they are the most accurate speaker I've ever heard. You won't have to give up any of your children for them either.

John

[Michael]

I swear by my (older) Event 20/20 BAS. The older pair, not the pair and sub. When I did my "shootout", I liked them better than the (at the time) brand new Mackie HR824s.

As for Genelecs...never been a fan :)

[barefoot]

Hello! I'm new to the forum. :)

Asking a nearfield to act like a large horn loaded theater system isn't a very realistic objective. However, there is a path to much better translatability even using nearfields. But you need to ask yourself what it is about a theater system that you're trying to replicate. Frequency response can be all over the map, so there's no sense in trying to find something representative in this regard. Flat and accurate is always the best road to take. In my opinion, the major thing that characterizes a large theater system is its broadband directivity and relative lack of early reflections. Now, this quality is going to be next to impossible to find in a small nearfield itself. Little speakers, by nature, have wide dispersions. But there is hope. The big systems use large horns to reduce early reflections. You can reduce early reflections by setting up your room properly. This can be done by making the front half or the room highly absorptive, and making the rear half very diffusive. This is referred to as a "live end, dead end" design. Another method is to mount the monitors flush into the front wall and create a "reflection free zone". So, even though your small speakers are not highly directional, it doesn't matter because the room design simulates the effect.

Creating the right listening environment can improve your mix translation immensely. Of course, designing a room is a rather complicated subject on its own. You might like to check out the Recording Studio Design Forum (http://johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/index.php) for a wealth of information on this subject.

Thomas